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Penelope Light Whiskey: Is It Worth $100? | Review

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Jason and Jordon crack open Penelope Light Whiskey to see whether this lighter-profile release justifies its ~$100 price tag. They dig into the nose, palate, finish, proof, and overall drinkability while comparing it to the rest of Penelope’s lineup and other whiskeys in the same price range.

If you’re curious about Penelope Light, thinking about buying a bottle, or just want straight-up whiskey talk without the fluff, this review breaks it all down.

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Jason:

I think me and you both have had like Amburana barrel age stuff. That's Cinnamon Toast Crunch. Or it

Jordon:

can be

Jason:

Fireball. You know they gotta make Fireball Age in Amburana barrels. We're gonna trademark that real quick, man.

Jordon:

Yeah.

Jason:

Welcome back to our Senate culture. I'm Jason Jordan and Matt's not here. We're back again for another review. Uh, Matt has left us. He's in Tennessee and says, screw you all figure it out. So, you know. He did give us the, the secondary mic, so thanks a lot Matt, I guess, but whatever. So today, yeah, we'll, we'll figure it out. Country boys will survive. Jordan, I think, I think Hank Junior said that, you know. So we're gonna do a review today. This one is a bourbon review, actually American Lot whiskey review from Penelope. This is their 17-year-old American lot whiskey, and thank you very much for sharing it with us. Hey, thank you for grabbing it. Uh oh, that's true, that's true. So, yeah, I mean, looking at this one. So let's talk, let's talk you MSRP first. So it's a hundred dollars MSRP, but. You got this at Total Wine and it was under a hundred dollars after tax. So we talked about this off camera, but I don't think they even knew what they had at Total Wine. Right. Yeah. You know, a lot of places have been putting this and rightfully so on their allocated uh, lists. Sure. Uh, it's 17 years old. I mean, yeah. You don't see. This kind of aged American whiskey every day. Yeah. It's getting some hype, I think. Not necessarily in the secondary realm, but it's getting some hype with some of the bourbon nerves. There's a lot of guys buying multiples of this. There's a local guy, Woodford. Woodford. Bour guy. Woodford guy. I mean, I know he's had a, I thought I would never have a chance to even grab one of these bottles locally because that guy has

Jordon:

40 bottles of this.

Jason:

Yeah. So I mean, it's been out a little bit. It actually released in January of this year officially. But I think we got this, you got this bottle in October, so I mean, yeah, I could, they just randomly threw it on the shelf at Total Wine. But again, we don't see things, so people think that we live in, we live in Kentucky, right? So we're in Lexington, Kentucky. Georgetown, Kentucky. They think we're living in in bourbon wonderland. And they're right about, it's made here, but our. Our ability to get limited bottles is not great. Like you have to really work to get 'em. No, you gotta, you gotta weed, you gotta, you gotta think, think about it. We're in, uh, bourbon Homeland. Mm-hmm.

Jordon:

Mm-hmm.

Jason:

And we have tons of people that are visiting this state, Ohio, Tennessee, just all over the country, really get a little shout out. But, you know, uh, their main objective when they come to visit is by, yeah. Every specialty bottle that they can't get in their home. Yep. Uh, market. And rightfully so. I would do the, I do the same thing for beer when I go visit a brewery somewhere.

Jordon:

Right?

Jason:

Uh, so that makes it sometimes for, uh, local Kentuckians, unless you have a hookup, uh, or have

Jordon:

friends that can, uh, give you some

Jason:

hints about when stuff's dropping or when stuff's coming out. It makes it pretty hard because you're either gonna pay really. High above MSRP to get a bottle that ev, every kentuckian that's into bourbon wants that bottle. Yeah. So you're gonna have to either pony up and pay more money for that bottle or, uh. You're gonna just have to know when to go grab it because somebody told you it's there. Pretty much. A hundred percent. A hundred percent agree with you. So let's talk a little bit about this one. So it's 138.8 proof, again, released in January of this year. We didn't get it till October. The mash bill is. 99% corn, 1% malted barley. This is not a bourbon. This is an American lot whiskey. Make sure everybody knows that one. This was distilled at Seagram's in Indiana, which is MGP, but at that point it was 2006. It was still called Seagram's.

Jordon:

S.

Jason:

It was aged in second fill oak barrels. So I don't know what they were though. I tried to find out like. Could they tell us a name of what they were? There was nothing. Yeah, so just second. Phil Oak barrels. MSRP again is a hundred bucks secondary, one 60 to to 200. So it's kind of like fluctuating back and forth. It's been very well received, I think from the whiskey or bourbon world. Secondary values limited. Um, the oddest thing about this, I think so in, in 20 th 23, so two years ago they did a 15-year-old light whiskey release. That price was one 30 MSRP. Yeah. This one is two years older. Higher proof. Yeah. And $30 less. Yeah. So it makes me wonder, like, do you think MGP might've saw some writing on the wall? Well, so let, let's talk about that, because MGP is a publicly traded company. Yep.

Jordon:

and MGP.

Jason:

bought Penelope. Penelope was started by, and I wish we had some more backstory on these

Jordon:

guys, but

Jason:

It's a couple guys from New Jersey that

Jordon:

started this brand,

Jason:

and I think it's Sopranos. It's actually named after one of their daughters. Okay. That's why it's called Penelope. I never knew that. I believe

Jordon:

facts are optional,

Jason:

facts. Facts are definitely optional. Yes. But,

Jordon:

uh,

Jason:

according to stuff I've

Jordon:

read online,

Jason:

this is MG P'S only growing brand that they now

Jordon:

own.

Jason:

So

Jordon:

I think

Jason:

they're

Jordon:

saying, you know what,

Jason:

it's a growing brand. People are buying every single Penelope. Like there, there's Penelope collectors.

Jordon:

I'm, I'm, I'm not a collector, I'm a drinker,

Jason:

but I have a lot of Penelope. I can confirm that actually. Yes. Yeah. I have a lot of Penelope bottles that I really enjoy. Mm-hmm. That and mainly the estate collection. And, uh, I think, uh, they have no problem selling this at a hundred

Jordon:

dollars,

Jason:

but also, you know.

Jordon:

the

Jason:

year was special.

Jordon:

I've never

Jason:

had the 15 year, year. I haven't either. No. They, they were so hard

Jordon:

come by around here that,

Jason:

uh, I never made the effort to. Ask, uh,

Jordon:

outta

Jason:

the state to grab a bottle. That's when they started getting hype. Yeah. So on this American Light Whiskey in 2023, the 15-year-old one, that's where the hype came in for this like American Light Whiskey. They did one in 2021 that was a 13-year-old that got no hype. I never heard about it. I don't think I heard about it at all. Maybe like a passing press release or something. Yeah. But 2023 got a lot of hype. And then this one. It's been getting a lot too. And

Jordon:

at,

Jason:

uh, Kentucky Bourbon Festival this year mm-hmm.

Jordon:

they did

Jason:

a special drop of a 20-year-old. Oh wow.

Jordon:

Uh, American

Jason:

Light whiskey. Okay. And you had to be, you know, part of the VIP ticket holders

Jordon:

to be able to get a chance

Jason:

to buy a bottle. That seemed to be a cluster. What, what? I wouldn't mind doing an episode on that. I didn't go. Never been. But hearing, uh, a lot of tales from people there and seeing some of the videos, I don't know that I'd wanna fight that. You know, it's.

Jordon:

it's a burden like.

Jason:

to do all the line waiting and stuff like that. But if I was able to walk away with a bottle that hadn't had a mass release, like a 20-year-old, yeah. American Light Whiskey or even uh. But a Camp Nelson, the Camp Nelson Knee from Wild Turkey, it'd been pretty cool if you'd got one of those. Yeah, if they, if they would've, I dunno, they had it there. No, I don't think they did. No way. But, uh,

Jordon:

They also had like

Jason:

a 14-year-old, uh, uh, rye whiskey, uh, American light whiskey or, yeah. Not Rye American light whiskey, but, uh, they had a 14-year-old rye whiskey estate collection released too, that was only released at KBF. So, and honestly, like MGP or Rye is some of my favorite rye, the 95 5 blender up. But they, they had long lines and. Yeah, like kind of what we're talking about, Penelope's, building up some hype on her, uh, kind of, uh, more, uh, limited bottles. Sure. A hundred percent. A hundred percent. You went to the release of the distillery? Uh, recently. Pretty recently, yeah. I went to the estate collection, uh, dinner there. Uh, because I loved LA last year's estate collection so much. And I know

Jordon:

a lot of people, uh, kind of

Jason:

thought it was kind of eh, you know, but for my tastes, I mean, I bought backup bottles

Jordon:

of the private

Jason:

select, and I love that one. The nine year from last

Jordon:

year. This

Jason:

year's, uh, 10 year private select is awesome as well.

Jordon:

And then they

Jason:

even, uh, had some Heaven hill juice and this year as a state collection. Yeah. So I'm excited to try some of that too. I think one thing I'll say about you and, and not kissing your ass online here, but um. You tell it how it is. Yeah. Right. So you're not chasing hype just to chase hype. No. So if you like something, you like it. Right. And then the other thing, I really enjoy drinking with you.'cause your palate, the way you pull out flavors and shit, I'm like, man, that's, I didn't think of that, but I get it. So well go ahead.

Jordon:

Oh well, you know,

Jason:

for me, I was into bourbon. Uh, 10 before. Before 10, 12 years ago. That more than that. Yeah, more than that. I got out of bourbon because I

Jordon:

couldn't.

Jason:

I couldn't buy the bottles I wanted. Yeah. And it was

Jordon:

just, it just became like a burden

Jason:

to Yeah. Like hunt down those bottles that I wanted. But what got me back into bourbon was actually

Jordon:

I.

Jason:

the craft distilleries and finishing. Yeah. Uh, I thought that

Jordon:

was a really cool turn that these distilleries have taken and Penelope does finish as well.

Jason:

Uh, the Valencia, uh, bottle, I love that bottle. Uh, their Cooperage series has a lot of finishes. So they got the

Jordon:

Rio.

Jason:

that's honey and

Jordon:

Awan

Jason:

this year. Havana is what this one is or something. Uh, Havana has rum and maple syrup. Valencia is, uh.

Jordon:

uh,

Jason:

Orange au or something? No. So it's like an orange wine barrel. Uh, V-D-N-V-D-N barrels. Yeah. And,

Jordon:

uh,

Jason:

the, to, to Toka Toka. I think it's Toka, but it's to, it spelled T-O-K-A-G-I or, yeah. Actually haven't had that one, but I've heard it's really good. Yeah. Uh, so well you had the bars town one that was finishing that remember? Yeah. When you we tried that one. So, and you know, I think, I

Jordon:

that's

Jason:

what drew me into Penelope initially. Back when I got back into bourbon and uh, ever since then, I, I just think I'm an MGP lover through and through. Same, like, we actually got to do a barrel pick there. Yes. We wasn't a great barrel pick. A barrel pick. It was a cool experience. Yeah. It wasn't, wasn't a great, but that's all they had to offer. That was a Remus brand, which I would not recommend buying, but yeah, that was, that was

Jordon:

right during,

Jason:

like right before COVID happened. Yep. Very close. Uh, very awesome. Facility they have there, and, uh, but I, I'll say this, you know, MGP. You know, a lot of people poo poo them away

Jordon:

so

Jason:

they, so they, their whiskey is sourced for so many developing brands out there. Yeah.

Jordon:

but they make such

Jason:

great quality product that you can blind buy. It's gonna be good. Yeah. Well we, we've talked a little bit about some brands like River Roots, right. A clean one up there and NDP doing some awesome things. Yeah. And we've had some from our friends at the Mashup podcast with Anthony Kenny, Steven. Some of their picks they've done, their single barrel picks have been fantastic. Yeah. And I think me and you both probably leaned towards their eyes. Yeah. Um, we had that, was it Krampus or Naughty or Nice or some shit last year, but yeah, I can't even remember. That was a fantastic one. I got it in there. Yeah. Yeah. And then Anthony, I think he has a picture on one. Yeah. You know, from there, but,

Jordon:

and, and shout out mashup.

Jason:

Yeah. The, you know, speaking of MGP, they're uh, they're Nashville

Jordon:

Barrel Company.

Jason:

Yeah. Uh, worst barrel, second worst barrel. And that rye is, that was a Kelvin Barrels, right man. They are, and they're still available

Jordon:

on Nashville Barrel Company's website.

Jason:

That second

Jordon:

wor for me. Second worst barrel.

Jason:

It is one of my top five bourbons

Jordon:

this year

Jason:

Yeah. That, that I've, that I've drank. I'm gonna buy backup stuff.

Jordon:

it is

Jason:

absolutely awesome. And then Anthony and Kenny, you can send that check to Arson and Culture care of Jason for Jordan's plug out there. But no, I, I do love it though. It, it is awesome. No, I agree. I agree. Good stuff. So.

Jordon:

So,

Jason:

Tasty notes a little bit about this. Anything you'd pick out from the nose? I'm not getting a ton from the nose. Might be where it's a little colder too.

Jordon:

I

Jason:

I, I think

Jordon:

in American light whiskeys, you're not gonna get a ton from

Jason:

the nose anyways. No, I, I agree with that. So what about taste though? What do you, what Are you picking out some flavors on this one?

Jordon:

It is very sweet

Jason:

and it is, which I'm, I enjoy.

Jordon:

very sweet. A little honey. Mm-hmm.

Jason:

Little honey. Uh, big vanilla. Big vanilla, sweetness.

Jordon:

Uh,

Jason:

it does not drink. Its proof to me. It's 1 38 0.8. I would say it drinks one 15. I

Jordon:

mean, it is.

Jason:

it is a smooth sipper for the proof. Yeah. So American light whiskey and, and Tasty Nails for me. I mean, I'm getting like a, a brown sugar a little bit, but again, sweet. Right. So some, some American light whiskey. What do you know about that? You know anything about it? I know a little bit about it. I, I think initially it was invented, right? Uh, back during 1960s when, uh, the clear liquors That's right. Started taking over as like the fancy, uh,

Jordon:

kind of a hot drink

Jason:

because health and fitness was, or lifestyle lifestyles just like, yeah, you know, forefront of, uh, society. Then maybe not health and

Jordon:

fitness

Jason:

'cause they smoked a lot, but you know, well, they thought, they didn't think it was bad for you back then. Yeah, but in, in the late 1960s, that's when it came out. So they were competing with lighter spirits. Exactly what you said. Gin and vodka. They wanted to offer a milder flavor than bourbon. So if you think about lot whiskey. The main difference, I would say, between IT and bourbon, one of the main differences, as as bourbon, you have to be in a new charred barrel, right? Like when you put a bourbon in a barrel, it has to be a new barrel, newly charred. For light whiskey, you can do a new barrel, but most of them do second, third use barrels. It does not have to be the, the new char, the difference in NASA color for, for me and flavor too, but. For a new charred barrel, you're gonna get a lot more color from that, um, from the char, right? So if you're a second use barrel, even though it's 17 years old, this is lighter than a a Jim Beam product or a Heaven Hill product because it's a second use barrel. Sure. You're not gonna get as much of that char coming through. And, you know, talking about

Jordon:

the second use barrels.

Jason:

It kind kind of comes together on the flavors for me. Mm-hmm. This kind of tastes like a toasted barrel finished burger. Agreed.

Jordon:

And you

Jason:

get like a little bit of sugar cane in it, you know, like Yeah.

Jordon:

when you, when you

Jason:

snap that sugar cane, you got that, uh, I don't

Jordon:

even know what you,

Jason:

what you,

Jordon:

call

Jason:

the fibers. The fibers,

Jordon:

That's kind of what you're getting

Jason:

in this. Uh, you get, you get super, like if you like sweet bourbons. This is right up your

Jordon:

alley.

Jason:

So sugar, Caden, I mean similar to it's rum, right? So you think of that. So, and it's not over

Jordon:

oaked

Jason:

like it's 17 years old and you're not getting oak ext stringency on this at all because of the second use barrels. I can see why our local guy, Jay Woodford bourbon guy, I think I can see why he got a lot of these.'cause honestly I'm digging it.

Jordon:

digging.

Jason:

It's good. So very good. Um, another thing about American light whiskey, there's no mash bill requirements. You can do whatever you want, right? So.

Jordon:

So

Jason:

This one's like 99% corn. You can do that. Is it, is it all about, uh, is it all about barrel entry proof with light whiskeys? I think yeah, that too. So you, you can do most of these Go one 60 to one 90 barrel entry proof with bourbon. It can't be above one 60. Yeah. So you kind of get unlimited on that side, plus you get the barrel, whatever barrels you want. This might, this might be off script, but,

Jordon:

did,

Jason:

well, we don't have a script, so you're good. Did, did, did that

Jordon:

change,

Jason:

uh, kind of recently the, the entry proof for bourbon? I don't, not that I'm aware of. I thought it's always been like, oh, you know what it was, I think Wild Turkey started changing their entry proof, yeah. On their bourbon, because they're very low entry proof. They're, they've always been a low word. They were, yeah. But I think it changed, it went higher like

Jordon:

20

Jason:

or 15 years ago. Okay. And that, that's why some of their, some of their new, uh,

Jordon:

le products like

Jason:

Russell's 15, I

Jordon:

I think,

Jason:

uh, Bruce said on Bourbon Pursuit, uh, podcast, when he was pulling those out of the barrels, it was over 160 proof. Wow. Yeah. You know, it's something that always interests me and I, I'd love to, I'd love to talk to a master distiller or Bruce Russell if, if you wanna talk to me, but. Um, asking about like, how do you, how, how, if you, if you make a bourbon, a whiskey, whatever, and you put in a barrel at one 30. How does it come up to one 50? Yeah. How does it go down to one 10? Like what It's all it's location in the Rick house, but I wanna hear it from, I want to hear different perspective. Yeah, I understand a little bit of the science. Yeah. But I like, I really want to hear what they're saying. Yeah. Like how does this, I know, I know. If it goes up, it's like concentration, right? Like you think of it that way. Yeah. Yeah. But if it goes down, I guess it just absorbs into the wood and you get a little water from it. Again, we're off script, but yeah, it's, it's an interesting conversation. And listen, facts are optional. That could have been a complete lie that said, well, that wasn't a facts.

Jordon:

uh,

Jason:

Uh, you know, I, I hear things and you know, I just spit 'em out what I recall. No, I get it. I get it. So some of the official tasting notes on this one, let's talk a little bit about that. Let Honeycomb Yeah, I could see it. Um, creme brulee. Okay. I said brown sugar. Big vanilla. I like that one. Big vanilla. Trail mix, which is an odd one.

Jordon:

some nuttiness.

Jason:

I don't know if I get that. I don't, I don't get any nuttiness, but trail mix, to me, you got like m and ms and raisins and peanuts, you know what I mean? Like maybe some almonds, I don't know. It said cinnamon. Maybe a little raisin, maybe. Okay. Lot. Um, maybe like the, the, the golden raisins. Yeah. Cinnamon. I don't get any cinnamon, you know, I think, I think some people confuse

Jordon:

oak.

Jason:

dryness

Jordon:

and ext stringency

Jason:

cinnamon sometimes. Okay. That's, that's a fair, that's a fair point. And I think it's always in tasty notes for older bourbon, but honestly, I think that's the oak playing a big part. A hundred percent. I think me and you both have had like Amburana a barrel age stuff, so Oh yeah, that's, that's a huge cinnamon note, right? That's, that's Cinnamon Toast crunch. Cinnamon toast, yeah. And it can go, it can go back quick. Like too much cinnamon, or it can be fireball. You know, you know what they gotta do? They gotta make fireball. Eggs and a barrels. Why have they not done that shit? Well, we're gonna, we're gonna trademark that real quick. Maybe. Yeah. Buffalo Trays probably doesn't wanna buy AANA barrels. That's true. That's true. Some other Tasty notes. Vanilla bean ice cream. Okay, well, vanilla. Vanilla for sure. Yeah. Uh, it's just, it's a straight

Jordon:

vanilla hitter,

Jason:

Uh, it's, it says Lot Orchard fruit. I can see it. Eh, waffle comb, eh. Okay. That's their official tasting notes. So overall, so for a hundred bucks, let's talk value. Yeah. Would you, would you buy it again for a hundred dollars For sure. I, no, no. Second guessing, I would buy three. That's for a hundred dollars. I would buy three for a hundred dollars If this was like. If

Jordon:

if this

Jason:

was a semi limited release, which it is Oh, it it is annual, yeah. If I saw it on the shelf, I would buy it. Mm-hmm.

Jordon:

I

Jason:

would buy, I would always, I'd have one open bottle and I'd have a backup. Yeah.

Jordon:

So

Jason:

you compare this to, I mean, where else are you going to get a 17-year-old whiskey or bourbon for a hundred bucks? And I don't know the answer. I don't know of any place.

Jordon:

lemme

Jason:

think about that for a second. I don't think it's there. I don't think it's there at all. Look at, look at like the worst one I can think of in my mind. No offense to you, Tennessee, but Dickel, the Jack, the the Dickel 17. Well, no, some of the Dickel single barrels are like, they have been good 15 plus and they have been good, but no, they actually made a release of Dickel 17. You like a 3 75 or 500 milliliters several years ago. Awful. I mean, to my palate, I don't know. I can't speak for everybody, you know? That

Jordon:

is

Jason:

one thing I

Jordon:

would love

Jason:

to try. Because I've never had dick old age Dick. No. I've had 17. I've heard some people really love it. I think people really want it to take off. You know, there's the reason they probably want take off. There's a ton of it. Yeah. Like, you know what I mean? I bet they have stock of that shit. So, yeah. I, I think

Jordon:

it's like that with every

Jason:

bourbon. I think once it hits a certain age,

Jordon:

people

Jason:

that hated it. Well actually love it and then people that loved it at that age might not even like it once it gets that old, well, you think of, of Pappy, right? So the Man Winkle stuff you look at Pappy 23. Yeah. Have you had that one before? Yeah. It's over oaked. It's like licking a a, an oak stave to me. Yeah. It's not my thing. It's not a bad bourbon, it's just I would never pay even retail for that. Unless I'm buying it to sell it. I mean be, to be honest, fifteen's the way to go on the Pappy 1, 15, 20, 20. Great. Um, I like 10 better than 12. The heat old rip old rip is between mm-hmm. Lot B and, and rip

Jordon:

rip 10 every

Jason:

day. Yeah. And then you got the, the 13 year rise. The rise. Fantastic. Yeah. Rice. Fantastic. It's a, it's a

Jordon:

a good way though

Jason:

to look at, and like I, we were talking about Knob Creek earlier. Mm-hmm. Uh, I've heard, you know. People that didn't like 18, they actually love the 21. So that, that's like a, yeah, that's like a swing in the different direction, right? Yeah. I mean, again, maybe they, the lower proof point maybe for them, I, you know, and even with Knob Creek talking to Jim Beam now, even when they went, they used to do their single barrel barrel strengths at one 20. Always. Yeah. They would proof it down or whatever. Now they're doing it above just barrel strength, but it's not even above. But the highest one I've seen is like 1 23. But, but like it's, it's right there. But some of them are not even one Tor Some's 1 16, 1 17.

Jordon:

I

Jason:

don't even know how that happens. Like that's what I wanna talk to Master Stewart about. So like, I, well actually I kind of get like going back in

Jordon:

my head about

Jason:

it, those barrels

Jordon:

that are

Jason:

Not at least one 20. Mm-hmm. We're probably never a part of the Knob Creek Single Barrel program. Correct. And now they are, because I, I've seen some cash strengths that are like 1 18, 1 19. Yeah. And people love them, so I bet it's great. I mean, it's like, it's like four roses. We're jumping all over the place now. But, you know, four Roses has different tiers, so. The higher the tier up to six, the higher the proof in general. So a tier one would be a lot lower proof than tier six, so people chase at higher proof. But honestly, I've had more tier ones that are great than I have tier sixes that are great. Yeah. All. All. And I love four roses. All the four OSS OGs that were into four row, this will tell you. The barrel strength, lower proof barrels are the best fire. Yeah. But on this side of things with this, this actually drinks like a lower proof

Jordon:

and it's almost

Jason:

I agree. Yeah. I mean we're, we're two points away from hazmat one, 1.2, so we both agree a hundred dollars. We're buying this all day, every day. Yeah. We would buy multiples for backup, so let's talk secondary. Secondary was call 1 75, so, damn, I don't think that's crazy. No, it's roughly.

Jordon:

roughly

Jason:

$10 a year. Right. So would you buy it for 1 75? No honest answer. Yeah. I would buy one. I wouldn't have backups. I think in a hundred dollars I would buy it. 1 75. How come. It's 'cause

Jordon:

total wine might put it on the shelf for a

Jason:

hundred. No, but, uh, no, but 1 75, if I've never had it yet, I'll pay for it. Uh, but I wouldn't buy backups at that point. No. You know what I mean? There's, there's other stuff out there, but for a hundred dollars I think it's pretty good. So what's rated last thing? Zero to five? Uh, 0.25 Increments. What do you think on this one?

Jordon:

4, 2,

Jason:

5? Yep. I, I'm between, I, I'm right at a four and a four and a quarter, but I'm gonna go four and a quarter, so I think this one's, uh, if you can find it, I mean, I know we're nine months, 10 months into when it's supposed to have been released, but we didn't see it until last week. Yeah. And I'm

Jordon:

assuming

Jason:

that, so this release is getting ready to come back again next year? Yeah. In like two months. I'm assuming it's gonna be 18 to 20 on the next release. So. Uh, get out

Jordon:

there and

Jason:

bite if you can. Yeah, I mean, it's, it's worth,

Jordon:

especially at MSRP

Jason:

for sure. For sure. So it's all for this episode. Thanks for watching. Uh, tell us what you think in the comments. And until next time, drink what you love and argue about the rest.