Sazerac Full Proof Rye: Thomas Handy Killer? | Review

We lined up three proofs of Sazerac Rye to see how they actually stack up. Matt, Jason, and Drew taste the Sazerac Full Proof Rye, the new Sazerac 100 Proof Rye, and the classic 90 proof Sazerac Rye side by side, breaking down flavor, spice, balance, and overall drinkability.

Along the way, we speculate whether the Full Proof release starts encroaching on Thomas H. Handy territory. If you’re trying to decide which Sazerac bottle is worth your money, this comparison will definitely help.


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Rob, he sent me a Thomas Handy, so I'd love to open that and have it side by side with this. Thomas. Thomas, I would assume the handy would. What's that? Rob? Rob. Rob, Rob, Thomas. Listen. Welcome back to Arsenic Culture. I'm Jason. I am Matt. I'm Drew. And we are here today for review. Yes, sir. We got Sazerac Rye, but we got three. We got all the ryes. I can't, I can't carry 'em. We got three Sazerac Ryes on the table. We are rye-ful. So I think everybody's heard of Sazerac. Yes, sir. From Buffalo Trace. Right? So the base, the baby Saz Uhhuh is 90 proof. So I'm gonna pour that one first. We'll start around there and then we'll talk about some other ones we wanna talk about though today. Well, let's go ahead and tell everybody what we got on the table so they don't. Just tune out and go to the next video. I was on a roll. Okay, so what we have today though, what Drew's opening there is the Sazerac full proof, right? It's a brand new offering. Been out for maybe a month total. Okay, so it's 125 proof Sazerac Rye. I, yes. And then this one here, that's in a seven 50 format. Mm-hmm. So a fifth nice bottle too. Those, those always look nice. Fantastic. Six bottles. Yeah. Fantastic. And so this one here, I've got, this is a liter I'll put in this camera. This is a hundred proof. So this is for bars? Mainly for cocktails. What they're looking for on this one. So what The baby Saz is 90 proof. This one's a hundred. Right. So this, I can't wait till we get into the prices 'cause I want you, I want you to discuss that. Very interested. Go that. So the a hundred proof's been out maybe three months. Not very long either. Gotcha. So let's start out with a four, with a 90. Yes sir. So we'll talk a little bit about this. So. The addition of Buffalo Trace for these two lines has been the last three to four months. There's a lot of speculation on why they're doing this. Buffalo Trace has made a huge expansion. They've made two huge expansions out there. Well, and they're one of the few distilleries that's doing it too, right? Yeah. I mean, yeah. And in this day and age, they're one, they're the, they're the only one, honestly, that have done the, the expansions and kept expanding like they are growing. Yeah. While the industry is Is contracting, probably contracting. They're hurting. Other industries are hurting. Yeah. So what Buffalo Trace is doing, if you look at it, they're taking the same brand and just. Building it out wide. Lateralization, they're not building up, right, so they're just putting three different labels on these. You got 90, a hundred, 1 25. It's all the same product. Yeah. So age statements on these, they're non-existent, but if you think about it, most ryes are younger, right? So I would say all these, I'd say the baby Saz is four years old. Right? That's what I've heard. I would say these two between four and five, I don't think they're that much older, if any. I agree, but the proof is more. So if there's anything that bourbon is. It's, it's marketing. Yep. You know, and it, lemme stop you there for a minute. So, we'll, we're gonna interchange the words bourbon, rye. So the bourbon, I'm sorry. Yes, it's okay. Bourbon police don't come for us. I do it too. Right. This is a rye, but still. Right. Buffalo Trace product. I think bourbon a lot of times too, but we're talking about ryes today. Exactly. Yeah. If I say whiskey, then that sounds weird too. Yeah. But just like we're in Kentucky, so if there's anything that these guys do, it's marketing. Mm-hmm. Right? Mm-hmm. So if there is a marketing angle they can capitalize on, I feel like they're gonna seize on that. Sure. So, if. 100 proof was eight years, and 1 25 was 12 years. Just hypothetically speaking, it's gonna say it on the bottle. Oh, the fact that it doesn't for sure. It's, I think it goes with what you're saying. They're, they're all the same product and they're just, they're just putting'em, they're proofing 'em differently. And you talk about that. So the a statement, so the only product they really age state for rye is the Sazerac Rye. That's the, it's in the Buffalo Trace Antique collection. BTAC, yeah. So the BTAC. That's an 18-year-old rye most years, right? Yeah. They'll have like the little printouts for it, tell you exactly what the specs are. Yeah. But that carries a premium price tag, right? Sure. So that you're looking at, gosh, I've not even priced one in a while, but I say retail's one 50 plus, right on that one. If you look at these, so your baby size rack, your 90. You're probably looking now 25 to $30. It's great. Yeah, so I mean, it's, it's a bourbon drinker's rye. It's, it's like a mixing rye. A hundred percent. But you can also have it straight. Yeah. Yeah, a hundred percent. Oh yeah. And why? It's a bourbon drinker's rye, it's, they don't disclose their mash bills. Buffalo tray stuff. Right. But. It's a low rye, so it's probably 51% rye. So it's what we call barely your rye. It's, it's still very high, you know, in corn. Um, and this is, this is very approSazeracable. Yeah. So you could drink this straight. You can have it in a Manhattan. The cocktail of any top again, 25, 30 bucks. I keep a bottle at home. Mm-hmm. You can see it's half gone for a while. That's really important in our glasses though. Now the crazy part about this is, do you wanna take a stab at how much this a hundred proof is? In a leader. In a leader, this is seven 50. This is a leader a little bit bigger. Right? So what do you think, this is at a hundred proof, what do you think the price is? MSRP? So based on the company, I mean, I'm probably, they've been fair in pricing, let's say that too. I, I, okay. Yeah, sure. But you know, with a new product like that, mm-hmm. I mean, I'm gonna say 75. What do you think? 65. So this is as cheap as this shut. Wait, what? With the same with the same volume. The liter of a hundred proof cak is $30 MSRP. The seven 50 of 90 proof is MSRP 25, but it's usually 25 to 30. Yeah, right. So roughly $5 more or the same price. You can get a hunter proof leader. That's so, that's fantastic. It is for us, for drinkers. Yeah. Why? Why would the business do that? Generally, when you see leader bottles of anything, it's for bar consumption. So this is meant to be on a bar. Right? This is meant to grab off and go that way. But they're selling in retail. Yeah. Yeah. This, this is honestly harder to find though, than the 1 25, the foolproof because of the format. Format. I mean, I don't know. Distro. So the 1 25, the foolproof. I don't even if it's hit distro yet. Maybe a little, but you can get this at the distillery. That's where I've gotten it. Gotcha. This is part of their, like normal lineup. Now did you get both of those at the distillery? I did not. Okay. The, the 100 proof liter, I got Liquor Barn in one of our local stores. Really? Yep. Was it on the, was it on the counter? Counter is on the counter sitting. But 30 bucks.$30 on the counter. Yeah. The counter is like the, the highend stuff that they put out that so people know that it's like I say the counter though. So I went to the one Hamburg and they actually had this on the shelf, so I bought many of these, uh, probably four or five. Okay. So it pretty solid. It's 25% more volume. Yep. And 11%, right. That 11% more, yeah. Alcohol. Yeah, five bucks more. On, on the total at most, from a business perspective, that seems counterintuitive. Yeah. I wonder if they're going to be shifting maybe. I mean, it would make sense like to shift from this. To this. Now I'm interested to see like the color. Well, if you think I can tell it. The color is a lot different. Like I'll be interested in taste it. Honestly, the color looks the same. Also, there's no neck port for the record. The color right, the color looks the same. Yeah. Like on all three of these products? Yeah. So we have a 9,005 it do standard. Yeah. What do you think the 1 25 is? So this is a seven 50. It's 125 Proof pricing. Still fair. MS Rrp pricing still fair? No other pricing's unfair. What do you think this one is? So if I was following my previous line of logic, I would've said like a hundred dollars. Yeah, but based on what you just told me before, I mean fucking $45. Close. I'm gonna say 65 again. It's 40. Golly. 40 what? So I actually, okay, I have a couple balls these, so I'm excited to try this now. I went by the distillery today, um, and I actually got this ball for 40 bucks. Okay. They also had a single oak project, which I've never had before. We'll do that in the future on the episode. Yeah, but I'm excited for that one too. So we got two pours right now. We got the 90 and the a hundred proof. Matt, do you have the a hundred yet? Which one do you like? No. A hundred, yeah, hundred. So now we're gonna pour the full proof, the 1 25. So very excited about this one. Um, again. I can't tell how much important that light lamb, I love that. I love that sound can be dangerous. What makes me, what makes me most excited about this 1 25 though, is that most rise are young. So one part of the B tac, the Buffalo Trace Antique Collection is the size 18, 18-year-old size act. But there's another one, the Thomas h Handy, right? That one is younger, non age stated. But most people would say it's under eight years old. So this is under eight years old. Right? For sure. The proof on the handy is gonna be, you know, younger two or, or smaller. Um, it's not gonna be barrel proof or anything. So this one here at 1 25, I mean maybe it's a btac killer. There's been some people that reviewed this against Thomas h Handy and said How is is the handy again? So retail on that one's probus for EP one down. I didn't write that one down. It's probably about 1 30, 1 40, somewhere through there. So, and then three x the price. Yeah. And then approximately your rack eighteens one 50. Mm-hmm. So I'm assume Handy's maybe a little bit cheaper than that one, but either way it's, it's gonna be, you know, four times as much as as three or four times as much. Yeah. So what? I mean, what do you think about the 90? We'll start from the bottom. The 90 to me, solid pour, classic poor. It is solid. Nothing I'm writing home, home about, but if I want a good approSazeracable rib, I will buy it. Right. Like I'll just have a drink. Well, and also if somebody was like, if they saw that sitting on my shelf and they were like, what's this? I'm like, oh, well it's a rye. You know, that's the one I'm gonna start with, you know, to give them something if they've never had anything like it. I think the Sazerac bottle shape is probably a top three bottle shape for me. Sexy. Yeah. Um, I think, you know, the will it, their pot still is not a good pore for me, but it's a beautiful bottle. Yeah. And this is, is reminiscent of that, but it's an actual bottle. Yeah. This is, this is a sexy bottle. I mean, all forms. And they also come with a half gallon of this. Oh, sorry. The knot proof. Right. They come with a half gallon of that and then they come with like the small. I think it's a 3 75, so a pint or whatever that is. Oh, really? I've never seen that. Does that have a similar neck too? Same thing. That's cool as hell. I mean, it's, it's literally the same bottle, just like miniature farm. Same, same damn co and everything. And if you drink enough of it or Buck faster or something else, you can use it as a weapon. Hundred. Oh, easily. Sturdy. Very sturdy. Sturdy. It's literally wield, but Beautiful bottle. Beautiful bottle. Tried. Tried 100 yet I've tried the 100. I don't taste a ton of difference in the 190. But it's only 10 proof points, right? Yeah. I think the nose is a little different for me, but now that 90 proof I have here has been open for probably six months, I think. I think this has been open for six minutes. Yeah. I think the 90 proof has a better nose for me. It's, it's, it's opened up a little more. I actually get more spice out of the baby SAS than I do the 100. I could see that. Is that just some oxygenation, like it's had more time to, I don't know, but it's not even, um, it's not hot though, right? It's just more just Baker Spice. Just Baker Spice. But it's not even subtle, like it's actually very apparent to me. Mm-hmm. Do you, do you either of you get that like, I'm going back and forth? Yeah, it's hard when you do these side by side by side because they are similar products, but like just doing the 90 and the 100 back to back. Yeah, I feel like I see what you're saying. I mean, if I'm gonna pick it apart, I'm gonna say the 90 proof, it's been open for six months. More black pepper. Yeah, like it's like peppery. Yeah. Um, it's also more flat, so it's not as a full flavor for me. Okay. Yeah. The hunter proof though is one note. I mean, I don't think s is like a crazy good pour. No regular, but the hunter proof's a little. Um, it is what it is. Straight, straightforward. Hunter proof. It's good. I agree. It's good. It's not great. I get almost like a biscuit element to it. Oh, I see that. Yeah. It's like reminiscent of like an actual bourbon, not a rye. Um, I don't dislike it at all. And again, rumored to be 51% rye, so barely your rye. Right? True, true, true, true, true. Now the 1 25, the foolproof. I haven't tried yet. I haven't either. Everybody won nostril and goat. The nose does not smell any hotter. No, it does not. The color looks black. I'm bringing up a black. It's dark. I know. It's really dark. Look at that. Like Put it up, put, put it next to mine. You can't see that shit. Look at, look next to mine. That's insane. Smells good. Bready though. Yeah. Oh wow. Okay. So I get a lot. Okay. I get a lot of that spice element. Golly. I get a lot more Oh yeah. That I was getting out of the 90. Okay. I like that a lot. I actually like that. I like that a lot. Yeah. I enjoy that shit. I mean, for a $40 pour. How do you go wrong? It's got, I'm sitting here thinking like, so will it a four year, will it green top or rye? That's probably 60 bucks no matter where you're buying it at. At least some stores overcharge for it. I mean, this is 40 if you can find it. I mean, I know it's, we're probably spoiled 'cause we can go to the distillery and get this bottle, but yeah, it's 25 minutes away from us. That's, that's a lot better than will it. It's also a bourbon rye versus a rye rye. So different mash bill, I'm assuming. Damn. The flavor profile on that 1 25 is somehow so much more robust than the other two. Oh yeah. Dare I say, it actually blows the other two out of the water. Yeah, it does. It, it's actually, it does. It's, it's kind of a night and day difference. Well, and if, if you're buying it right, like again, I'm sort of the everyday consumer on this here. Yeah. If I can find this, I'm going with this 100 times out of a hundred. Yeah. So I looked it up right then end. So Thomas handy. So the beat tag collection, the lower end of the rise. It, it proof roughly around 1 25 to one 30. So similar to that. So it's similar. So I, I have, I have a Thomas Handy at home. You wanna put that side by side? I do. One of one our, I kind of do too. One of my friends sent to me, um, we gotta open on the show. So Rob from Pennsylvania, thank you very much. He sent to me last Christmas, essentially like for a thank you, right? I sent him a nice box for Christmas, but uh, he did too much. Robbie did too much. He sent me a 2016 Thomas Handy Jesus. Okay. Which is honestly, um, renowned as the best Thomas handy. Right. So I'd love to open that and have it side by side with this and say. How is it? I'd like to see it in the bli of that Thomas. I would assume The handy Thomas. Was it Rob? Rob. Rob. Isn't Thomas, Rob? Thomas? Listen from, uh, matchbox 20. Yes, Rob, you're coming to Kentucky. You're doing it on the show. Come on down. Hell yeah. You're come down contest. Come down baby. Come down one. Yeah, we're gonna give him some Jeffs And that's how you start the day. Anyway. Sorry, but this is this. No, no, it's, that's okay. This is fantastic. Like that one 20 five's. Great. I'm curious, so what is the re have, have you looked online to see what the reception is of the 1 25? So it's kind of been mixed. Um, you see people that do a lot of reviews and don't talk about secondary stuff, they're, they're rating it higher than the Thomas a Chandy. This year's. Well, oh, well, where does the mix come in? The what Now? You said it's mixed. I said what are the reviews like? Oh, mix. Oh, there's, there's been some though. Like there's no secondary to this really. So, oh, I see, I see. This bottles, this bottle's 40 bucks retail. So Secondary's been maybe one 25 cents. Dude, that sounds like two wins. It's great. And there's no secondary. I mean, well, I mean it's three times MSRP, but Okay. If you told me I didn't live in Kentucky. Yeah. And I can get this bottle shipped to my house for 1 25. Yeah, send me three. Because the handy comparative is, or the comparison is, well, the handy be $400 plus. What did you say retail was on that again? 40 bucks. 40 bucks. It's, it's a third of what Handy would be retail. You know that out of all of us, including Jordan, anybody we have on the show, I'm the most cynical when it comes to bourbon prices. I agree. Will actually mean you are, but like I, I don't pay for what a lot of people are paying for bourbon and honestly. That's, that's like $150 bottle for me. It's at least, it's at least a hundred and 125 for me. Yeah, I mean, minimum. Yeah. That's a really good pour. I think, I mean, it's not maybe gonna need to keep drinking more, but it doesn't drink above 1 25. It probably drinks about a hundred. 110. Mm-hmm. It's under 1 25. It's really approSazeracable. I could drink this straight. I'd also for 40 bucks, I'd make a cocktail with it. Why would you not? How would. I, I would not, and it would be an awesome, I would not would drink that by myself, but I'm a big rye guy. I love you think I Me too. Me too. I, this is, I mean, this has got, it's got a little bit of body to it. Yeah. It's, oh, it does. The flavor profile is insane. It's got a huge spice. I'll probably take this to my family's Christmas and just make some like. Mixed drinks with it, with 'em. So what they think. Really? Yeah. Fuck you. Just leave it here. Just uh, I'll sell it to you for 800. 800. No, one 50 you said? 1 5900. Only just a sa Full proof. And, uh, diet Mountain Dew or, uh, A eight. Oh yeah. Yeah. So go back. Just humor me here. So take a little sip of the 1 25 and let's go back to the 90 proof and see. I just did the 1 25. The 4, 4 90, sorry. I drink it all. I've got a few. Don't worry. You can tell. Okay, so I'll buy you another one at the distillery. No, I want the handle. I wanna hit somebody. Got it. Uh, the, you can obviously tell the heft from like the alcohol, you know, there's, there's a distinct difference there, but I, I think that lends creedence to the beverage. Yeah. I enjoy that. You know, for sure. It, it a little bit more alcohol just makes you appreciate what's in there. It's not hazmat. Yeah. You know what I mean? No. But the 90 has got some spice to it. Maybe having a higher proof makes that spice a little bit more potent. Yeah, it's possible. It's more potent. Potable it, pot potable. Thanks. Uh uh Alex say I don't say William Shatner. Yes, thanks Alex Trebek. But I mean our IP baby. We're going on the, we're predicating this with that. We think these are similar products. Yeah, they are. I initially, but still I feel like there is a huge difference between the 1 25, not even and the 90, but, and the other two. Yeah. When you go back from the 1 25 to the 90, 90 is like water. It is, there's not much flavor compared to the 1 25. And um, again, we're not proof hounds. We're not just trying to say one 40 plus is where it's at. No, there's flavor there. Oh, there's a lot of flavor. So that's, that's impressive. I mean, great job SSazerac for keeping it affordable. Um, hopefully it hits distro readily available too. But they have so much product coming out. Like, honestly, speaking of C act, they recently, in the last week we're, we're in like the middle of December right now, so the last week they have a added a Weller antique, the red label, which is my favorite. Well, 1 0 7. 1 0 7. They've added that to their rotation at the distillery. Really? No shit. So that's gonna be coming through like an eagle rare, like a, like you know. Well or special reserve. Yeah. I'm like damn. Alright, let's go. So I'll be stocking up on those. Those are 1 0 7 proof. It's, this is an aside, but I do like the one, oh, the 1 0 7 T. Yeah, depending, like if you go up there, let me know. This is literally off topic from the show. Yeah. But my neighbor. I love him to death. Mm-hmm. He's an older guy, he's a widower and he drinks and I would love to get him like, 'cause he, he brings cookies over to our house. Yeah. Oh hell yeah. Like every few months I would and I would love to get him a bottle. Should take him one of those. Well, I'm insane. Like 1 0 7 would be, yeah. One oh seven's fantastic. That's my, and not expensive. That's my jam. It's not expensive. So like, if you get an extra one, please let know. I got you. Well, and anybody else, fans of the show? Yeah, if you want to come to. Central Kentucky go up on a Saturday or a Sunday morning. Yeah. Yeah. Gus could do an episode outside. We could, we could. I would love that. That would be so awesome. That'd be sick. Yeah, he is like, pick up your cameras and move in line. That would be a lot of fun. We, we, we used to do a lot of on location stuff. We fun. We haven't done it in forever because, you know, we've been doing the stuff with like the Airbnb and stuff like that, which has been fun, but I actually missed doing that. I do too. I think the summary of these though, the one 20 fives a standout a hundred percent. The 100 gets lost if you go back and forth between the two. It's fine. It does the nineties so watered down. It's kind of just there, but I could see somebody liking that. If you're new to bourbon, new to Eyes. Yeah. Yeah. But the 100 is the one that's kind of loser here for me. Well, but you said this, is this gonna be on shelves? So it will be on the shelf some. It's gonna be in bars more. Right. But still 30 bucks. Are you assuming that or do you know that? I know that. Oh, okay. I know that. But like you're not gonna see this on the shelf every day. The hunter proof. You're gonna see the 90 proof on the shelf every day. You should see that now. The one, you should see that now. Yeah. Yeah. You should. The one 20 five's gonna be a special release, but not, it's not a B tac or like a well or foolproof or something like that. Mm-hmm. Well, or 12. Yeah. It's gonna be less hype than that. Right. So it shouldn't sell out immediately. Yeah. But the hunter proof should be available some and also available at every bar. Well, and I think that's the cool part about that aspect of it is that, yeah, if. I do like ordering, uh, a ride mixed drink sometimes at a bar, I think in Manhattan or, or you, or old fashioned or whatever. Something that's a little bit sweeter. You wanna cut that? This is a great mm-hmm. Place to go because you gotta think, well, it's gonna be priced maybe a little bit more competitively Yeah. Right. Than something that's, yeah. You know, this is, will you say 35, $40? So the, the seven 50 of the 90 proof should be 25 to 30, right? This was the leader of the hunter. Proof should be 30. Yeah. I mean, and the seven 50 of the 1 25 should be 40. So you might think, well bars may or may not adjust their pricing on their drinks. They will, based on that, they might be like, well this is a Manhattan made with this. This is an old fashioned made with this, whatever it is. But if you have the option, like it's not a bad option. Yeah. But if you told me my, my Manhattan or old fashioned with a 90 proof, size $8. But if I want the a hundred is 10. Alright. Gimme the a hundred. Yeah. You know, for two, like two bucks more. Yeah. Like, why not? Let's do a little review on this one. So 90 proof for 30 bucks. Would you buy the 90 proof map? I do. I have, but only when I don't have, when I'm out. Yeah. I keep one. I keep one. Yeah. Uh, hunter proof. Would you buy it for 30 bucks? Yes, I would. Yeah. Okay. I would prefer the 90 proof, but I would, yes. Yeah. Okay. Uh, what's also, it's also a liter, so it's a little more understandable. Yeah. Yeah. Let's go for the 1 25. Foolproof for 40 bucks. Yeah. I buy taste also buy. Yeah. So would you buy those talk secondary on the foolproof 1 25 top secondary? Yeah. Would you buy a bottle? Yes. Yeah, I would too. Yeah. I mean, I think, I think it's a great pourer for the money. Yeah. Now let's rate the 1 25, so from zero to 5.25 increments. Matt, what would you rate the 1 25 foolproof size? Are you gonna last again? I'll go last. Uh, we're going, we're going to standard scale. Yeah. That's like you, you can consider what you wanna consider. I'm gonna, I'm gonna break our standard metric. We're not gonna go 0.25. I'm just say fuck it. I'm gonna go 4, 3, 7. Five. I know I'm being a dick. Yeah. Seriously. It's, it's, it's try between, it's, I'm trying to, like, I'm, I'm nudging, I'm trying to like figure it out there. Yeah. Like that's a great pour for me for what it is. Totally agree. I think the value is there. I think the like flavors there. Yeah. There's a lot in that bottle. I agree. That I really appreciate. I don't think it's gonna win like bourbon of the year or ride of the year, whatever. You know what I mean? Yeah. But it is great. I think it, I think it could have win a ride of the year if you take price consideration. Maybe. Maybe. What did you, what were you saying? Yeah, he's going last, oh, I'll do whatever. So for me, I'm gonna give two ratings. Mm-hmm. You want my overall I'm four and a quarter. Yeah. I'm between four and a quarter and four and a half. Really? I'm, I'm with you. Mm-hmm. The 4, 3, 7, 8. Try to find that split there. Yeah. I'm gonna go four and a quarter officially on the 1 25, but if you talk value, I'm a six outta five. Jesus. I know, right? That's a great value for this month. That's insane. If you can get that, if you compare this to bac, which we will at some point. Okay. I wanna see what Handy does against this. Yeah. True. Alright, so if you've ever seen any of my bourbon reviews on this show, I have. I usually, yeah. One, one or two. I don't like four and a quarter is about as high as I go. Mm-hmm. And about four is about as low as I go. Yeah. I take value into consideration. That's fine. I'm gonna say four and a half on this. Okay. Really take into consideration the value for. Because I love Rise, but given a, I mean again, we live in bourbon country. Yeah. Like the distillery is 25 minutes from my house. Yeah. Um, so I can get this for 40 bucks roughly. Even if I was gonna have, oh God, I gotta buy this on the secondary, I'd probably still buy it still 1 25. I probably, I feel like it your day. Yeah. I feel like you're gonna buy it on secondary, right? Because I'm, because I'm like the, I'm sort of like the everyday man's bourbon. And you would still do that on secondary And I would still do it on the secondary. I think that compared to what it's up against. Yeah. It's still a buy for me. On second, we got, we gotta see this against Handy. We gotta see it a hundred percent. So. Guys, thanks for tuning in. Um, drink what you like, argue about the rest. Tune in next time to Arsenic Culture Lock and subscribe on YouTube. We'll see you later.